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The cure for pitch fatigue
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Hello Prox Jox ā
A few weeks ago, something strange happened.
I sat down at my desk to make a trailer for Proxyās official launch (coming next Tues!) and had a meltdown.
Every podcast producer I know hates making trailers but we have to, mainly so that Apple and Spotify will consider featuring our shows. But my reaction was extreme.
I just needed to make 1-3 minutes of audio. Hardly anything. But something inside me kicked NO.
I realized it was because I had pitch fatigue.
Iāve never been good at selling my work. I was late to social media. I avoided the journalist as influencer route as long as I could.
Iāve always resented how our culture rewards telling over doing. I much prefer the doing.
But over the last two years, since starting to work on Proxy, I went from barely being able to say hi to NPRās podcast chief in the elevator to making my elevator pitch to podcast companies in Zoom meeting after Zoom meeting. Thanks to sheer repetition and a solid routine Iāve developed (steps below), Iāve gotten so much better at pitching. But also, itās been a lot. Iām tired.
So I asked some listeners who filled out our survey if theyād send a voice memo making THEIR pitch for the show. In the end, I didnāt use the memos because I decided to make a simpler trailer, but thank you for helping me climbing out of my pitch fatigue hole and doing a better job at describing the show than me.
I loved the memos so much Iām going to share some highlights from them.
PROX VOX
Taking your problems and your concerns of the world and mainlining an expert opinion into them. That makes sense, right? Does that make sense?
Iād never heard the term āemotions beatā before Yowei started using it about the Proxy podcast, but the idea immediately resonated with me. Deep dives into why we experience the emotions we do and how they can deeply influence our lives. I often get something personally useful out of an episode thatās super valuable.
Proxy is the answer to those emotional questions where you wanna know what happened, what could have happened, what was normal, but usually you canāt because thereās too much emotional baggage.
Proxy is⦠kind of a game. Itās like someone on the other side of your world holds a certain kind of knowledge or information that helps you think through your own situation.
[With Proxy,] you kill two birds with one stone. You address the key part of those experiences by helping people feel less alone in them⦠[and provide] evidence, knowledge-based solutions if you need help moving through them.
Proxy is the podcast that talks to your heart.
The perfect spiritual successor to Invisibilia.
You know when youāre down or youāre blue or your cat died or your mom and dad divorced or whatever happened to you in your life and you used to go and watch The Office? Well, if there was The Office for the podcast world, then that would definitely be the Proxy podcast.
Canāt believe someone compared Proxy to The Office. Pretty sure we canāt live up to that comparison, but I love that we can be a comfort show for someone!
PROXY IN THE WILD

The other week, my friend James texted me: āHey! So Iām booking guests for the new John Mulaney Netflix show. And theyāre looking for an HR person for an episode.ā He had heard Catie Maillard, our star proxy HR rep in The Layoff Trilogy, on the pod and wanted to reach out to her.
For context, James is THE podcast producer James Kim of Moonface fame, who just came out with Season 2 of You Feeling This, an anthology podcast featuring ten different creators telling stories about what they fear most.
Anyway, of course I gave James my blessing and Catieās contact info, and then I promptly forgot about it.
Until last week, when I came across a news article that Catie had appeared on a āGetting Firedā episode of Everybodyās Live with John Mulaney.
In the episode, Catie tells John Mulaney, Bill Hader, Chelsea Peretti, and Johnny Knoxville how to fire someone, and does a demonstration by firing Richard Kind, whoās pretending to be Gene Simmons. She wrote a LinkedIn post titled āFrom Nothing to NPR to Netflixā where she walks through the string of events that led to this surreal event, including the fact that she actually ignored the email from Netflix at first, because her house had just burned down in the Eaton fires.
I reached out to Catie and she said itās been āa wild 2025ā and that sheāll hopefully be resettling in a new home soon. In the meantime, she shared these links to nonprofits whoāve continued to help, along with her GoFundMe.
World Central Kitchen: We need to study how these folks are able to mobilize so quickly after a disaster - they showed up the day of the fires, and did the same for Helene and other disasters. Feeding those who need to be fed.
Project Camp: Providing care for children impacted by the fires. My son's daycare burnt in the fire, though we are lucky to have my mom around to provide childcare, which most families do not have.
My family's GoFundMe. Pride swallowed, help appreciated.
Congrats to Catie and also so relieved you and your family are safe.
Hope the rest of you enjoy the launch next week. Thank you for helping us get there. Itās been a ride.
Your emotional investigative journalist,
Yowei
p.s. Here is the routine I use before pitching and really, any event Iām nervous about:
20 minutes of stream of conscious writing aka Morning Pages (shout out Julia Cameron).
5 minutes of āmirror meditation,ā but I do it looking into the Photo Booth app on my laptop (shout out Tara Well).
Saying my list of manifestations out loud while looking into the Photo Booth app while listening to the Drag Race credits song. (Iām hoping to condition my brain like a lab rat, so that I can play this song whenever I need it and have a positive Pavlovian association lol.)
A quick round of stretching and vocal warm-ups.
Edited by Juliana Feliciano Reyes.
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